that is where we need to go in terms of reducing the deficit. guest: that is true, we to cut spending, but there is some conflicting of a couple issues. we to cut long-term spending on retirement programs to make them more in line with economic growth, not make them grow that much more quickly than economic growth. all the things that the republican house has passed, cuts, have the discretionary spending and non-defense discretionary spending. so i think it is true you have to be serious about long-term mandatory spending reductions, but you cannot get their only by spending -- reducing spending. you have to do something on taxes. really, plan b was about tax cuts, not spending. it seems to me the only with the republican party will get major spending cuts passed is it they also agreed to new revenue. otherwise, the president cannot be out there continually only cutting spending while leaving all of the bush-ever tax cuts in place. host: let me share with you what family pet rich writes. she says it is almost certain that social security will be